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#1 2019-05-31 22:05:06

Ollibolli
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Did you know this tag?

Good evening everybody,

does anyone know, what sort of (time tracking-)tag this is?

cg8thjig.jpg


Many thanks in advance!

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#2 2019-06-01 05:46:12

iceman
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Re: Did you know this tag?

Looks like its this:

Page 224, 225, 226 ,
https://www.zeus-keyless.de/fileadmin/u … cation.pdf

Tech inside could be tracked via productnumber/ordernumber.

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#3 2019-06-01 13:27:17

Ollibolli
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Re: Did you know this tag?

Yes iceman, that's it!

Should the Proxmark3 (Easy) recognize the following transponter-versions with "hf search"?

125 kHz: EM4450, HITAG

113,56 MHz: MIFARE Classic, MIFARE DESFire, LEGIC prime, LEGIC advant ISO 15693, LEGIC advant ISO 14443

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#4 2019-06-01 13:48:54

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Re: Did you know this tag?

with both 'lf search' and 'hf search'  most of those would be recognised.

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#5 2019-06-01 13:57:47

Ollibolli
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Re: Did you know this tag?

"pm3 --> lf search
NOTE: some demods output possible binary
  if it finds something that looks like a tag
False Positives ARE possible


Checking for known tags:

[=] Signal looks just like noise. Looking for Hitag signal now.
Waiting for a response from the proxmark...
You can cancel this operation by pressing the pm3 button
[!] command execution time out

[-] No Data Found! - maybe not an LF tag?"




"pm3 --> hf search
[!] timeout while waiting for reply.
UID    :
ATQB   : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
CHIPID : 00
      App Data: 00 00 00 00
      Protocol: 00 00 00
      Bit Rate: 106 kbit/s only PICC <-> PCD
Max Frame Size: 16 bytes
Protocol Type: Protocol is not compliant with ISO/IEC 14443-4
Frame Wait Integer: 0 - 32 ETUs | 302 us
App Data Code: Application is Proprietary
Frame Options: NAD is not supported
Frame Options: CID is not supported
Tag :
  Max Buf Length: 0 (MBLI) chained frames not supported
  CID : 0

[+] Valid ISO14443-B Tag Found"




What does it means?

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#6 2019-06-01 14:40:15

iceman
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Re: Did you know this tag?

That the tag seem to respond to ISO14443B.   The output is garbage but still tag seem to talk 14b.

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#7 2019-06-01 15:03:30

Ollibolli
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Re: Did you know this tag?

Hmm, if i use the "hf search" first, the result is:

"pm3 --> hf search
[!] timeout while waiting for reply.

[-] no known/supported 13.56 MHz tags found"


So, which transponter-version is also possible (which the Proxmark3 don't recognize )?

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