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#1 2015-10-19 12:54:43
- Pummarola
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[14b] Trying to read data from card
Hello everyone,
I was just playing around with my new PM3 and i did not figured out what kind of card this(see attached image) could be.
Reading the company specs it should be something like Calypso or Tango card, unfortunately i didn't managed to get any infos out of it. PM3 gives me back "no tag detected" with hf search.
Actually with "hf tune" i get changes fo mV when i move the card around (what an obvious thing). Data follows:
#db# 19709 mV
#db# 19284 mV
#db# 18610 mV
#db# 18398 mV
#db# 18327 mV
#db# 18362 mV
#db# 18575 mV
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#db# cancelledLast edited by Pummarola (2015-11-18 23:18:19)
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#2 2015-10-19 13:05:08
- meter
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
Here is the pic. Black spaces are hidden personal data.
http://postimg.org/image/luab2nkzj/
Hi, can you tell me which is the difference between your image and this:
try to post the result of commands:
hf list 14a
hf list 14b
so we can understand which standard use it.
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#3 2015-10-19 13:16:35
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
well you are right, but unfortunately there is no result out of those commands. Probably i'm missing something
proxmark3> hf list 14a
Recorded Activity (TraceLen = 0 bytes)
Start = Start of Start Bit, End = End of last modulation. Src = Source of Transfer
iso14443a - All times are in carrier periods (1/13.56Mhz)
iClass - Timings are not as accurate
Start | End | Src | Data (! denotes parity error) | CRC | Annotation
|
-----------|-----------|-----|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-----|--------------------|
proxmark3> hf list 14b
Recorded Activity (TraceLen = 0 bytes)
Start = Start of Start Bit, End = End of last modulation. Src = Source of Transfer
iso14443a - All times are in carrier periods (1/13.56Mhz)
iClass - Timings are not as accurate
Start | End | Src | Data (! denotes parity error) | CRC | Annotation
|
-----------|-----------|-----|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-----|--------------------|
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#4 2015-10-19 13:19:27
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
by the output from his "hf tune" it indicates it is high freq tag.
But without knowing the company name, or tag type, is gonna be hard.
If it is calypso, you would need to try sending some raw commands.. "hf 14b raw..." there is thread about calypso tags,
ref: http://www.proxmark.org/forum/viewforum.php?id=2533
You will have to share more info if you want to get some help.
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#5 2015-10-19 13:23:41
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
Actually i can share it, but that's all in Italian language. I did try some raw commands with no result, the link provided gives me "outdated" error.
Here are the company specs for that cards.
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#6 2015-10-19 13:45:46
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
it mentions Mifare Ultralight and Calypso..
The calypso is strange, you need to have the tag on a precis spot and the tag needs to be initialised of the ticketing system.
Read that thread, you should be able to run the "hf 14b raw" commands with success.
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#7 2015-10-19 14:14:38
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
Here is the result of init raw command, i tried many times, with no different behaviour
Prox/RFID mark3 RFID instrument
bootrom: /-suspect 2015-08-16 18:49:55
os: /-suspect 2015-08-16 18:50:03
LF FPGA image built for 2s30vq100 on 2015/03/06 at 07:38:04
HF FPGA image built for 2s30vq100 on 2015/06/22 at 21:47:54
uC: AT91SAM7S512 Rev B
Embedded Processor: ARM7TDMI
Nonvolatile Program Memory Size: 512K bytes. Used: 166521 bytes (32%). Free: 357767 bytes (68%).
Second Nonvolatile Program Memory Size: None
Internal SRAM Size: 64K bytes
Architecture Identifier: AT91SAM7Sxx Series
Nonvolatile Program Memory Type: Embedded Flash Memory
proxmark3> hf 14b raw -c -p 05 00 08
received 0 octets
proxmark3> hf list raw
Recorded Activity (TraceLen = 14 bytes)
Start = Start of Start Bit, End = End of last modulation. Src = Source of Transfer
iso14443a - All times are in carrier periods (1/13.56Mhz)
iClass - Timings are not as accurate
Start | End | Src | Data (! denotes parity error) | CRC | Annotation
|-----------|-----------|-----|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-----|--------------------|
0 | 0 | Rdr | 05 00 08 39 73 | |Actually i have 4 of these cards which are from different "ages" 2012, through 2015, same result for everyone of them.
Thank you.
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#8 2015-10-19 14:57:33
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
there is another startup command for 14b 06..
Have you tried the "Hf 15"? íclass?
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#9 2015-10-19 15:25:35
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
It probably is a CD21 (a chip from ST Microelectronics) contact/contactelss smartcard using Calypso standard (if it is quite old it can be ISO14443B'). 99.9% it is NOT a mifare, but it can be a mifare-emulate (I don't think so).
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#10 2015-10-19 15:27:46
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
Sure i tried befor, with "hf list iclass" and "hf 15 reader" same result with no data at all.
proxmark3> hf 15 reader
#db# -1 octets read from IDENTIFY request:
#db# 0 octets read from SELECT request:
#db# 0 octets read from XXX request:
proxmark3> hf list iclass
Recorded Activity (TraceLen = 0 bytes)
Start = Start of Start Bit, End = End of last modulation. Src = Source of Transfer
iso14443a - All times are in carrier periods (1/13.56Mhz)
iClass - Timings are not as accurate
Start | End | Src | Data (! denotes parity error) | CRC | Annotation
|
-----------|-----------|-----|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-----|--------------------|Don't know what init command 06 is, do you mean "06 00 08"? Anyway same "0 octets received".
I'm just trying and trying, but it seems to be an unreadable card. I will keep trying. 
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#11 2015-10-19 16:56:59
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
You can try with snoop between card and official reader.
hf 14b snoop
hf 14a snoop
and so on...
but if the card is B' as tell asper, you need of "hf snoop", a patch never arrived in official github, so you can understand as decode the comunication between card and reader
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#12 2015-10-19 17:09:26
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
I'll give it a try with various official snoop commands even if it's not easy to access official reader(as you could imagine), unfortunately i think it could be a B' card. Is there any unofficial patch for B'??
Thanks.
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#13 2015-10-21 09:57:22
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
made some progress with "hf 14b snoop" but i receive various "FAIL CRC" errors when i read the data from "hf 14b list".
I will keep trying with 14a and iclass and report back.
Can i post my result data?
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#14 2015-10-21 14:31:11
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
Can i post my result data?
Sure, why not?
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#15 2015-10-22 09:35:49
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
so here it is, the 14b snoop result.
root@flo:/storage/emulated/0 # proxmark3 /dev/ttyACM1
proxmark3> hf 14b snoop
#db# Snooping buffers initialized:
#db# Trace: 39232 bytes
#db# Reader -> tag: 256 bytes
#db# tag -> Reader: 256 bytes
#db# DMA: 256 bytes
#db# blew circular buffer! behindBy=239
#db# Snoop statistics:
#db# Max behind by: 239
#db# Uart State: 1
#db# Uart ByteCnt: 2
#db# Uart ByteCntMax: 256
#db# Trace length: 0
proxmark3> hf 14b list
recorded activity:
time :rssi: who bytes
---------+----+----+-----------
+ 0: : (SHORT)
+ 0: : (SHORT)
+ 0: : (SHORT)
+ 0: : (SHORT)
+ 0: : (SHORT)
+ 0: : (SHORT)
+ 0: : (SHORT)
+ 0: : (SHORT)
+ 0: : (SHORT)
+ 0: : (SHORT)
+ 0: : (SHORT)
+ 0: : (SHORT)
+ 0: : 05 43 01 50 c0 54 30 15 0c 05 43 01 **FAIL CRC**
+542408784: : (SHORT)
+-542408784: : (SHORT)
+1048642: 134291460: TAG (SHORT)
+ 1024: 138477572: TAG (SHORT)
+ -1026: 73732: TAG 00 (SHORT)
+-1048640: : (SHORT)
+539000960: : (SHORT)
+ 0: : (SHORT)
+33554433: : 00 00 00 00 00 45 40 05 60 01 58 00 16 00 05 80 09 60 01 58 00 56 00 15 80 07 60 01 58 00 56 00 15 80 11 00 00 00 00 00 00 c5 40 03 60 00 d8 00 36 00 0d 80 03 60 00 d8 00 36 00 0d 80 01 70 00 c8 00 36 00 0d 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 **FAIL CRC**
+-571768657: : 30 01 0c 00 **FAIL CRC**
+1074003731: 134242308: TAG (SHORT)
+ 0: 0: TAG (SHORT)
+-1074790467: : 03 00 00 c0 00 30 00 0c 00 03 00 00 d0 00 24 00 08 00 03 00 00 c0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 05 01 31 40 4c 50 13 14 04 c5 01 31 40 4c 50 13 14 04 45 05 11 00 48 40 13 10 04 c0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 23 05 68 c1 5a 70 56 8c 15 a3 05 68 c1 5a 30 56 8c 15 a3 05 68 c0 5a 30 56 8c 15 80 00 00 **FAIL CRC**
+ 0: : 00 08 00 02 00 00 80 00 20 00 08 80 02 20 00 90 00 24 01 08 00 02 00 00 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 **FAIL CRC**
+1648625664: : 11 88 44 62 11 18 04 46 01 11 88 44 60 11 18 84 46 21 11 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 45 50 11 54 **FAIL CRC**
+-1296216828: : 04 55 01 11 40 41 50 11 54 04 55 01 15 80 11 00 00 00 00 00 00 c5 40 03 60 00 d8 00 36 00 0d 80 03 60 00 d8 00 16 00 0d 80 01 70 01 c8 00 36 00 0d 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 30 01 0c 00 43 00 10 c0 04 30 01 0c 01 43 00 10 c0 04 60 00 88 00 43 00 **FAIL CRC**
+-352359668: : (SHORT)
+805257200: : (SHORT)
+ 49152: : (SHORT)
+-201322496: : (SHORT)
+-603983872: : (SHORT)
+822101248: : 04 c5 01 31 40 4c 50 13 14 04 c5 05 31 00 48 40 13 10 04 c0 **FAIL CRC**
+-822150400: : 05 68 c1 5a 30 56 8c 15 a3 05 68 c1 5a 30 56 8c 15 a3 05 68 c1 5a 30 56 8c 15 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 **FAIL CRC**
+2097152: : (SHORT)
+ 128: : (SHORT)
+ 262160: : (SHORT)
+-2359312: : (SHORT)
+291652488: : 88 44 62 11 18 84 46 01 51 88 44 60 11 18 84 46 21 **FAIL CRC**
+-291619831: : (SHORT)
+1346666479: : 11 (SHORT)
+-1056225984: : 40 41 50 10 54 04 55 01 15 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 **FAIL CRC**
+818987712: : 85 08 20 42 08 50 82 05 20 85 48 21 42 0c 50 82 14 20 85 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0a 01 02 80 **FAIL CRC**
proxmark3>Today i've tried to snoop 14a but something went wrong, when i've launched "hf 14a snoop" proxmark didn't started anything, i think i have also to start "hf list 14a" at the same time. Am i right?
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#16 2015-10-22 11:55:24
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
yikes, that output was nasty looking. where is Holiman when you need him? 
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#17 2015-10-22 12:01:59
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
what do you think is the problem? do i have to try again?
Last edited by Pummarola (2015-10-22 12:02:19)
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#18 2015-10-22 12:04:09
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
Sorry, I wouldn't know. I never seen a 14b' snoop, and I don't know the protocol either.
However, you would need to search for a 14b' protocol data sheet online and start match it with this output.
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#19 2015-10-22 14:30:33
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
are you sure that's 14b'? how do you can tell that?
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#20 2015-10-22 15:21:27
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
hf 14b list is a deprecated command so you are using an old version of firmware. Try with lastest version from github.
A lot of improvements have been done on 14B lately.
The difference between 14B and 14B' not are bytes but signal as between 14A and 14B, but maybe 14B and 14B' are similar so something PM3 catch some bytes but only for error. With HF Snoop all is different, you can see the signal without problems, as for LF. My friend is working on porting enio's patch to lastest version on github, so you should have more test todo.
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#21 2015-10-22 15:32:31
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
@pummarola,
whats the output of "hw version" ?
And have you downloaded / compiled / flashed the latest sourcecode from GitHub?
That client should have a nicer output for 14b. And the 14b command has been improved as @meter mentions.
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#22 2015-10-22 15:46:38
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
here it is my hw ver, i flashed the version contained in 2.2.0 windows client from forum.
Prox/RFID mark3 RFID instrument
bootrom: /-suspect 2015-08-16 18:49:55
os: /-suspect 2015-08-16 18:50:03
LF FPGA image built for 2s30vq100 on 2015/03/06 at 07:38:04
HF FPGA image built for 2s30vq100 on 2015/06/22 at 21:47:54
uC: AT91SAM7S512 Rev B
Embedded Processor: ARM7TDMI
Nonvolatile Program Memory Size: 512K bytes. Used: 166521 bytes (32%). Free: 357767 bytes (68%).
Second Nonvolatile Program Memory Size: None
Internal SRAM Size: 64K bytes
Architecture Identifier: AT91SAM7Sxx Series
Nonvolatile Program Memory Type: Embedded Flash MemoryLast edited by Pummarola (2015-10-22 15:46:59)
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#23 2015-10-22 15:48:18
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
With HF Snoop all is different, you can see the signal without problems, as for LF. My friend is working on porting enio's patch to lastest version on github, so you should have more test todo.
I'd love to see hf snoop finished!
I hope it goes well.
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#24 2015-10-22 23:06:24
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
Just compiled and flashed latest git version, btw i tried to snoop 14a and i think proxmark3 intefere with official reader(hf 14a snoop and hf 14a list then moved near reader and card), and card is not read by the reader. When i move the proxmark away, the card is correctly read by the reader. Strange behaviour!
Any other ideas?
How can you confirm it's a 14b'? and not a straight 14b?
Tomorrow i'll try again.
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#25 2015-10-22 23:14:44
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
Did you try the 14b snoop with the new firmware? Results?
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#26 2015-10-22 23:29:56
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
Tomorrow i will report about it
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#27 2015-10-23 09:23:26
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
the thing is where you write "hf 14a list"... it is a deprecated command.
The command to use is: 'hf list 14a'
This makes me wonder if you are using the latest client together with the latest compiled firmware...
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#28 2015-10-23 17:02:38
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
Actually i do think it could be a client version problem, because i'm using the android client 2.0.0 and probably it's now outdated. I think i have to try with a notebook with latest client compiled. Also because with that client version i can't use hf list 14a but only hf 14a list, with as I know now it's deprecated. 
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#29 2015-10-29 01:50:19
- Pummarola
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
proxmark3> hf list 14a
Recorded Activity (TraceLen = 243 bytes)
Start = Start of Start Bit, End = End of last modulation. Src = Source of Transfer
iso14443a - All times are in carrier periods (1/13.56Mhz)
iClass - Timings are not as accurate
Start | End | Src | Data (! denotes parity error) | CRC | Annotation |
-----------|-----------|-----|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-----|--------------------|
0 | 256 | Tag | 00! | |
20176 | 20368 | Tag | 01 | |
81328 | 81712 | Tag | 01 | |
88128 | 88384 | Tag | 00! | |
156352 | 156544 | Tag | 01 | |
191632 | 191824 | Tag | 01 | |
252032 | 252288 | Tag | 00! | |
279536 | 279792 | Tag | 00! | |
286496 | 286688 | Tag | 01 | |
341584 | 341840 | Tag | 00! | |
355360 | 355552 | Tag | 01 | |
433584 | 433776 | Tag | 01 | |
598208 | 598400 | Tag | 01 | |
2150368 | 2150560 | Tag | 01 | |
2528976 | 2529232 | Tag | 00! | |
3574032 | 3574416 | Tag | 00! | |
3590832 | 3596912 | Tag | fb! ff 7f! dd 9f 03! | !crc|
4259600 | 4263888 | Tag | ed! 6b! fd! 35! | |
7950608 | 7954384 | Tag | f7! fd! fb! 03! | |
7968048 | 7968240 | Tag | 01 | |
8067024 | 8069776 | Tag | ff d7 07 | |
8183936 | 8184256 | Tag | 03! | |
8198576 | 8199536 | Tag | 7d! | |
proxmark3>made some progress with it
got this result from snooping 14a with latest client version, any ideas?
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#30 2015-11-10 10:41:01
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
again snooped with 14a but can't get how to initialize the card
Prox/RFID mark3 RFID instrument
bootrom: master/v2.2.0-94-g2487dfe-suspect 2015-11-09 19:40:41
os: master/v2.2.0-94-g2487dfe-suspect 2015-11-09 19:40:44
LF FPGA image built for 2s30vq100 on 2015/03/06 at 07:38:04
HF FPGA image built for 2s30vq100 on 2015/11/ 2 at 9: 8: 8
uC: AT91SAM7S512 Rev B
Embedded Processor: ARM7TDMI
Nonvolatile Program Memory Size: 512K bytes. Used: 171411 bytes (33%). Free: 352877 bytes (67%).
Second Nonvolatile Program Memory Size: None
Internal SRAM Size: 64K bytes
Architecture Identifier: AT91SAM7Sxx Series
Nonvolatile Program Memory Type: Embedded Flash Memory
proxmark3> hf 14a snoop
proxmark3> hf list 14a
Waiting for a response from the proxmark...
Don't forget to cancel its operation first by pressing on the button
#db# cancelled by button
#db# COMMAND FINISHED
#db# maxDataLen=3, Uart.state=0, Uart.len=0
#db# traceLen=1170, Uart.output[0]=00000005
Recorded Activity (TraceLen = 1170 bytes)
Start = Start of Start Bit, End = End of last modulation. Src = Source of Transfer
iso14443a - All times are in carrier periods (1/13.56Mhz)
iClass - Timings are not as accurate
Start | End | Src | Data (! denotes parity error) | CRC | Annotation |
------------|------------|-----|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-----|--------------------|
0 | 480 | Rdr |05! | | ?
86848128 | 86848352 | Rdr | 01 | | ?
88181632 | 88181856 | Rdr | 01 | | ?
88183456 | 88183680 | Rdr | 01 | | ?
88185616 | 88185840 | Rdr | 01 | | ?
89721812 | 89722004 | Tag | 01 | |
89777604 | 89777796 | Tag | 01 | |
89995412 | 89995604 | Tag | 01 | |
90029620 | 90030004 | Tag | 01 | |
90091188 | 90091380 | Tag | 01 | |
90160452 | 90160644 | Tag | 01 | |
90212244 | 90212500 | Tag |00! | |
90218756 | 90218948 | Tag | 01 | |
90348324 | 90348644 | Tag |03! | |
90464580 | 90464836 | Tag |00! | |
90499412 | 90499732 | Tag |03! | |
90525828 | 90526084 | Tag |00! | |
90553492 | 90553684 | Tag | 01 | |
90629156 | 90629476 | Tag |03! | |
90643988 | 90644244 | Tag |00! | |
90655620 | 90655940 | Tag |03! | |
90669188 | 90669380 | Tag | 01 | |
90696644 | 90696836 | Tag | 01 | |
90737364 | 90737556 | Tag | 01 | |
90951892 | 90952212 | Tag |03! | |
91054356 | 91054612 | Tag |00! | |
91157684 | 91157876 | Tag | 01 | |
91171316 | 91171700 | Tag |00! | |
91252148 | 91252340 | Tag | 01 | |
91327460 | 91327652 | Tag | 01 | |
91409348 | 91409540 | Tag | 01 | |
91424004 | 91424196 | Tag | 01 | |
91477700 | 91477956 | Tag |00! | |
91511892 | 91512148 | Tag |00! | |
91588404 | 91588596 | Tag | 01 | |
91634980 | 91635236 | Tag |00! | |
91703748 | 91703940 | Tag | 01 | |
91819412 | 91819604 | Tag | 01 | |
91868180 | 91868436 | Tag |00! | |
91998836 | 91999092 | Tag |00! | |
92113860 | 92114052 | Tag | 01 | |
92205716 | 92205908 | Tag | 01 | |
92307124 | 92307316 | Tag | 01 | |
93131892 | 93132596 | Tag |17! | |
93200916 | 93201748 | Tag |36! | |
93245412 | 93245924 | Tag |03! | |
109699684 | 109699876 | Tag | 01 | |
109719604 | 109719796 | Tag | 01 | |
110016916 | 110017172 | Tag |00! | |
110025044 | 110025236 | Tag | 01 | |
110281476 | 110281668 | Tag | 01 | |
110329796 | 110330052 | Tag |00! | |
110519588 | 110519780 | Tag | 01 | |
110621252 | 110621444 | Tag | 01 | |
110731988 | 110732308 | Tag |03! | |
110739060 | 110739252 | Tag | 01 | |
110852036 | 110852228 | Tag | 01 | |
111313236 | 111313492 | Tag |00! | |
111389540 | 111389796 | Tag |00! | |
111438084 | 111438340 | Tag |00! | |
111507652 | 111507908 | Tag |00! | |
111611556 | 111611812 | Tag |00! | |
111673716 | 111673972 | Tag |00! | |
111935892 | 111936084 | Tag | 01 | |
111943908 | 111944164 | Tag |00! | |
112006308 | 112006500 | Tag | 01 | |
112197956 | 112198212 | Tag |00! | |
112254516 | 112254708 | Tag | 01 | |
112502996 | 112503252 | Tag |00! | |
112538884 | 112539076 | Tag | 01 | |
112580452 | 112580644 | Tag | 01 | |
112733940 | 112734132 | Tag | 01 | |
112766292 | 112766548 | Tag |00! | |
112830948 | 112831204 | Tag |00! | |
112877172 | 112877428 | Tag |00! | |
113306772 | 113307028 | Tag |00! | |
113536932 | 113537124 | Tag | 01 | |
113584260 | 113584516 | Tag |00! | |
113899076 | 113899268 | Tag | 01 | |
113952036 | 113952228 | Tag | 01 | |
114158676 | 114158932 | Tag |00! | |
114214740 | 114214996 | Tag |00! | |
114290084 | 114290340 | Tag |00! | |
114316980 | 114317172 | Tag | 01 | |
114571188 | 114571444 | Tag |00! | |
114620292 | 114620484 | Tag | 01 any advice?
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#31 2015-11-10 22:34:28
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
have you tried the hf 14b snoop?
post the hf list 14b after?
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#32 2015-11-11 00:47:38
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
actually i did it, first page one of latest posts. Btw will try again tomorrow and report it back
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#33 2015-11-11 01:06:39
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
I only see two 14a snoops since latest firmware.
Maybe I missed it?
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#34 2015-11-11 14:56:42
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
No miss, he post only 14b snoop with a very old firmware, so pretty useless.
@Pummarola the lastest version is very important on PM3, about every day there are new updates, new improvements, so is very important do test with latest version.
For example now there is hf snoop in official github, you can try it and post the result. My friend has ported in github because I asked to him for you.
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#35 2015-11-12 14:46:03
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
Marshmellow is specialist on helping noobs.
Thx for the complement. . I try to give back some since I've learned a lot here.
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#36 2015-11-18 01:09:58
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
Backing in topic, i have snooped some data and i'm trying to learn from it, probably i will have to go with raw data because it's better for understanding card init command sent from reader. I'm compiling latest versions as soon as there are commits. However "yes" marshmellow is very good in helping proxmark noobs
Regards
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#37 2015-11-19 11:56:24
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
seems i have got something new. Just snooped twice just to be sure.
proxmark3> hf list 14b
Waiting for a response from the proxmark...
Don't forget to cancel its operation first by pressing on the button
#db# cancelled
#db# Snoop statistics:
#db# Max behind by: 141
#db# Uart State: 0
#db# Uart ByteCnt: 0
#db# Uart ByteCntMax: 256
#db# Trace length: 108
Recorded Activity (TraceLen = 108 bytes)
Start = Start of Start Bit, End = End of last modulation. Src = Source of Transfer
iso14443a - All times are in carrier periods (1/13.56Mhz)
iClass - Timings are not as accurate
Start | End | Src | Data (! denotes parity error) | CRC | Annotation |
------------|------------|-----|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-----|--------------------|
0 | 0 | Rdr | 01 0b 1f 80 a1 78 | !crc| ?
20592 | 20592 | Rdr | 01 89 3f 80 a1 78 | !crc| ?
41302 | 41302 | Rdr | 01 89 3f 80 a1 78 | !crc| ?
52952 | 52952 | Rdr | 21 c2 06 94 b2 01 1c 1d 02 9e 59 ad 9c 83 | !crc| ?
76758 | 76758 | Rdr | 21 06 06 94 b2 02 4c 1d fe 2e | ok | ?
115036 | 115036 | Tag | 20 | |
135664 | 135664 | Tag |<empty trace - possible error> | |
proxmark3>proxmark3> hf list 14b
Waiting for a response from the proxmark...
Don't forget to cancel its operation first by pressing on the button
#db# cancelled
#db# Snoop statistics:
#db# Max behind by: 164
#db# Uart State: 0
#db# Uart ByteCnt: 0
#db# Uart ByteCntMax: 256
#db# Trace length: 90
Recorded Activity (TraceLen = 90 bytes)
Start = Start of Start Bit, End = End of last modulation. Src = Source of Transfer
iso14443a - All times are in carrier periods (1/13.56Mhz)
iClass - Timings are not as accurate
Start | End | Src | Data (! denotes parity error) | CRC | Annotation |
------------|------------|-----|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-----|--------------------|
0 | 0 | Rdr | 01 0b 3f 80 a1 78 | ok | ?
11502 | 11502 | Rdr | 21 c2 06 94 b2 01 3c 1d 02 be 59 ad 9c 83 | ok | ?
23508 | 23508 | Rdr | 21 04 06 94 b2 01 4c 1d 21 f6 | ok | ?
35320 | 35320 | Rdr | 21 06 06 94 b2 02 4c 1d fe 0e | !crc| ?
114122 | 114122 | Tag | 2c 44 | |
proxmark3>started to play around with that.
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#38 2015-11-19 12:25:15
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
It seems to be a dual interface smartcard and the data you sniffed are (or seem to be) a smartcard apdu communication transaction (commands that can be send via contact interface embedded inside a rfid commandset); it is good that you managed to sniff.
You should try to sniff the very beginning of the transaction and see if the byte "E0" comes out.
If you have a smartcart (contact!) reader I can give you some commands to be tested.
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#39 2015-11-19 12:38:03
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
sure, if you mean this kind of reader, i own it. http://www.hicoproduction.com/images/66.jpg
This was first attempt i made, with no luck, indeed.
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#40 2015-11-19 19:28:52
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
Do you have a software to send APDUs like Smart Card Toolset Pro ?
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#41 2015-11-20 02:16:52
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
Affirmative.
I have also jsmartcard explorer
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#42 2015-11-21 00:08:22
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
Ok, so you can try starting the software, put the card in the reader and show the ATR (I suggest you Smart Card Toolset Pro).
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#43 2015-11-21 11:15:22
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
Here it is the ATR
3B 6F 00 00 80 5A 08 03 03 00 00 00 02 BE 59 AD 82 90 00Inserting another card here is the ATR
3B 6F 00 00 80 5A 08 03 03 00 00 00 01 E8 30 61 82 90 00Stating on what i've found around google it's a Navigo contact type card. Because of the initial part of the ATR.
Used card peek to analyse content of the cards
<?xml version="1.0" type="UTF-8"?>
<cardpeek>
<version>0.8.4-win32</version>
<node>
<attr name="classname">card</attr>
<attr name="label">CALYPSO</attr>
<node>
<attr name="classname">atr</attr>
<attr name="label">cold ATR</attr>
<attr name="size">19</attr>
<attr name="val" encoding="bytes">8:3B6F0000805A08030300000002BE59AD829000</attr>
<node>
<attr name="classname">item</attr>
<attr name="label">Possibly identified card</attr>
<attr name="val">Card supporting a Calypso application Rev 1
Navigo (France) transport card
ACTV (Italy) transport card</attr>
</node>
</node>
<node>
<attr name="classname">file</attr>
<attr name="label">ICC</attr>
<attr name="id">0002</attr>
<node>
<attr name="classname">record</attr>
<attr name="label">record</attr>
<attr name="id">1</attr>
<attr name="size">29</attr>
<attr name="val" encoding="bytes">8:06C2084998888500FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF02BE59AD465230383000000000</attr>
</node>
</node>
<node>
<attr name="classname">file</attr>
<attr name="label">ID</attr>
<attr name="id">0003</attr>
</node>
<node>
<attr name="classname">folder</attr>
<attr name="label">Ticketing</attr>
<attr name="id">2000</attr>
<node>
<attr name="classname">file</attr>
<attr name="label">Environment</attr>
<attr name="id">2001</attr>
<node>
<attr name="classname">record</attr>
<attr name="label">record</attr>
<attr name="id">1</attr>
<attr name="size">29</attr>
<attr name="val" encoding="bytes">8:0007D00000573E1C533E00000000000000000000000000000000000000</attr>
</node>
</node>
<node>
<attr name="classname">file</attr>
<attr name="label">Event logs</attr>
<attr name="id">2010</attr>
<node>
<attr name="classname">record</attr>
<attr name="label">record</attr>
<attr name="id">1</attr>
<attr name="size">29</attr>
<attr name="val" encoding="bytes">8:36800000003683EE92965280010C0190019000000000002B0000000000</attr>
</node>
<node>
<attr name="classname">record</attr>
<attr name="label">record</attr>
<attr name="id">2</attr>
<attr name="size">29</attr>
<attr name="val" encoding="bytes">8:36800000003683EE898D3180010C02B002B00000000000190000000000</attr>
</node>
<node>
<attr name="classname">record</attr>
<attr name="label">record</attr>
<attr name="id">3</attr>
<attr name="size">29</attr>
<attr name="val" encoding="bytes">8:36800000003683EE73827000010C0190019000000000002B0000000000</attr>
</node>
</node>
<node>
<attr name="classname">file</attr>
<attr name="label">Contracts</attr>
<attr name="id">2020</attr>
<node>
<attr name="classname">record</attr>
<attr name="label">record</attr>
<attr name="id">1</attr>
<attr name="size">29</attr>
<attr name="val" encoding="bytes">8:106D01213E1F410E299F7801000A01631F395200000000000000000000</attr>
</node>
<node>
<attr name="classname">record</attr>
<attr name="label">record</attr>
<attr name="id">2</attr>
<attr name="size">29</attr>
<attr name="val" encoding="bytes">8:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000</attr>
</node>
<node>
<attr name="classname">record</attr>
<attr name="label">record</attr>
<attr name="id">3</attr>
<attr name="size">29</attr>
<attr name="val" encoding="bytes">8:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000</attr>
</node>
<node>
<attr name="classname">record</attr>
<attr name="label">record</attr>
<attr name="id">4</attr>
<attr name="size">29</attr>
<attr name="val" encoding="bytes">8:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000</attr>
</node>
</node>
<node>
<attr name="classname">file</attr>
<attr name="label">Contracts</attr>
<attr name="id">2030</attr>
<node>
<attr name="classname">record</attr>
<attr name="label">record</attr>
<attr name="id">1</attr>
<attr name="size">29</attr>
<attr name="val" encoding="bytes">8:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000</attr>
</node>
</node>
<node>
<attr name="classname">file</attr>
<attr name="label">Counters</attr>
<attr name="id">202A</attr>
<node>
<attr name="classname">record</attr>
<attr name="label">record</attr>
<attr name="id">1</attr>
<attr name="size">29</attr>
<attr name="val" encoding="bytes">8:0000000000000000000000FFFFFF000000000000000000000000000000</attr>
</node>
</node>
<node>
<attr name="classname">file</attr>
<attr name="label">Counters</attr>
<attr name="id">202B</attr>
<node>
<attr name="classname">record</attr>
<attr name="label">record</attr>
<attr name="id">1</attr>
<attr name="size">29</attr>
<attr name="val" encoding="bytes">8:0000000000000000000000FFFFFF000000000000000000000000000000</attr>
</node>
</node>
<node>
<attr name="classname">file</attr>
<attr name="label">Counters</attr>
<attr name="id">202C</attr>
<node>
<attr name="classname">record</attr>
<attr name="label">record</attr>
<attr name="id">1</attr>
<attr name="size">29</attr>
<attr name="val" encoding="bytes">8:0000000000000000000000FFFFFF000000000000000000000000000000</attr>
</node>
</node>
<node>
<attr name="classname">file</attr>
<attr name="label">Counters</attr>
<attr name="id">202D</attr>
<node>
<attr name="classname">record</attr>
<attr name="label">record</attr>
<attr name="id">1</attr>
<attr name="size">29</attr>
<attr name="val" encoding="bytes">8:0000000000000000000000FFFFFF000000000000000000000000000000</attr>
</node>
</node>
<node>
<attr name="classname">file</attr>
<attr name="label">Counters</attr>
<attr name="id">202E</attr>
<node>
<attr name="classname">record</attr>
<attr name="label">record</attr>
<attr name="id">1</attr>
<attr name="size">29</attr>
<attr name="val" encoding="bytes">8:3FFFFF0000000000000000FFFFFF000000000000000000000000000000</attr>
</node>
</node>
<node>
<attr name="classname">file</attr>
<attr name="label">Counters</attr>
<attr name="id">202F</attr>
<node>
<attr name="classname">record</attr>
<attr name="label">record</attr>
<attr name="id">1</attr>
<attr name="size">29</attr>
<attr name="val" encoding="bytes">8:3FFFFF0000000000000000FFFFFF000000000000000000000000000000</attr>
</node>
</node>
<node>
<attr name="classname">file</attr>
<attr name="label">Counters</attr>
<attr name="id">2060</attr>
<node>
<attr name="classname">record</attr>
<attr name="label">record</attr>
<attr name="id">1</attr>
<attr name="size">29</attr>
<attr name="val" encoding="bytes">8:3FFFFF0000000000000000FFFFFF000000000000000000000000000000</attr>
</node>
</node>
<node>
<attr name="classname">file</attr>
<attr name="label">Counters</attr>
<attr name="id">2061</attr>
<node>
<attr name="classname">record</attr>
<attr name="label">record</attr>
<attr name="id">1</attr>
<attr name="size">29</attr>
<attr name="val" encoding="bytes">8:3FFFFF0000000000000000FFFFFF000000000000000000000000000000</attr>
</node>
</node>
<node>
<attr name="classname">file</attr>
<attr name="label">Counters</attr>
<attr name="id">2062</attr>
<node>
<attr name="classname">record</attr>
<attr name="label">record</attr>
<attr name="id">1</attr>
<attr name="size">29</attr>
<attr name="val" encoding="bytes">8:0000000000000000000000FFFFFF000000000000000000000000000000</attr>
</node>
</node>
<node>
<attr name="classname">file</attr>
<attr name="label">Counters</attr>
<attr name="id">2069</attr>
<node>
<attr name="classname">record</attr>
<attr name="label">record</attr>
<attr name="id">1</attr>
<attr name="size">29</attr>
<attr name="val" encoding="bytes">8:0000000000000000000000003FFFFF3FFFFF3FFFFF3FFFFF0000000000</attr>
</node>
</node>
<node>
<attr name="classname">file</attr>
<attr name="label">Special events</attr>
<attr name="id">2040</attr>
<node>
<attr name="classname">record</attr>
<attr name="label">record</attr>
<attr name="id">1</attr>
<attr name="size">29</attr>
<attr name="val" encoding="bytes">8:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000</attr>
</node>
</node>
<node>
<attr name="classname">file</attr>
<attr name="label">Contract list</attr>
<attr name="id">2050</attr>
<node>
<attr name="classname">record</attr>
<attr name="label">record</attr>
<attr name="id">1</attr>
<attr name="size">29</attr>
<attr name="val" encoding="bytes">8:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000</attr>
</node>
</node>
</node>
</node>
</cardpeek>and second card
<?xml version="1.0" type="UTF-8"?>
<cardpeek>
<version>0.8.4-win32</version>
<node>
<attr name="classname">card</attr>
<attr name="label">CALYPSO</attr>
<node>
<attr name="classname">atr</attr>
<attr name="label">cold ATR</attr>
<attr name="size">19</attr>
<attr name="val" encoding="bytes">8:3B6F0000805A08030300000001E83061829000</attr>
<node>
<attr name="classname">item</attr>
<attr name="label">Possibly identified card</attr>
<attr name="val">Card supporting a Calypso application Rev 1
Navigo (France) transport card
ACTV (Italy) transport card</attr>
</node>
</node>
<node>
<attr name="classname">file</attr>
<attr name="label">ICC</attr>
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</cardpeek>you can copy and paste into txt file and save as xml, and open it with cardpeek.
Last edited by Pummarola (2015-11-21 11:47:08)
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#44 2015-11-21 22:56:12
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
It probably uses Calypso standard (often used in transport systems) which is proprietary and actually undisclosed to public (for what know you need to be a transport service provider and you must pay to have it). If you want to study/reversing it you need to know the command set; you can get some info sniffing transaction but it will be an hard work.
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#45 2015-11-22 03:08:28
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
At least we know what it is, never imagined it would have been simple. I will keep studying it, if anyone has some other hints he's free to post them.
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#46 2015-11-22 12:20:49
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
there is threads on this forum about calypso...
go for the hf 14b raw commands..
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#47 2015-11-23 01:57:28
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
Hi Ice, I will read better that topic, but as i see every single raw command sent to card gave me 0 octets received.
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#48 2015-11-23 11:10:59
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
depends if your calypso tag is initialized or not on the transit system. I have a tag which never been used and I also only get nothing from the tag. Someone else did the same on a tag that been used, and got all responds like expected.
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#49 2016-02-23 12:56:33
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Re: [14b] Trying to read data from card
and I just heard it has a custom anti-collision solution, before it starts to answer normal apdu's
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