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#1 2015-12-05 19:17:07

Lenox
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PM3 reading G-Prox II showing Indala

Hi there,

I am testing an old G-Prox II fob with latest version 2.5.0, but the PM3 always shows Indala UID=0000000000000000000000000.
Sometimes(10% of the chance) shows G-Prox II which is right.

Is this a software bug or just my PM3 problem?

Thanks in advance,

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#2 2015-12-05 20:14:08

iceman
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Re: PM3 reading G-Prox II showing Indala

Can you save the read and share it?

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#3 2015-12-06 04:11:56

Lenox
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Re: PM3 reading G-Prox II showing Indala

iceman wrote:

Can you save the read and share it?

proxmark3> lf search 
Reading 30000 bytes from device memory
Data fetched         
Samples @ 8 bits/smpl, decimation 1:1           
NOTE: some demods output possible binary
  if it finds something that looks like a tag         
False Positives ARE possible
Checking for known tags:
BitLen: 319         
Indala UID=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 (0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000)         
Valid Indala ID Found!

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#4 2015-12-06 06:08:46

Lenox
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Re: PM3 reading G-Prox II showing Indala

Should Be:

proxmark3> lf search 
Reading 30000 bytes from device memory
Data fetched         
Samples @ 8 bits/smpl, decimation 1:1           
NOTE: some demods output possible binary
  if it finds something that looks like a tag         
False Positives ARE possible
Checking for known tags:
G-Prox-II Found: FmtLen XX, FC XX, Card X553         
Raw: f900533004038230XXXXXXXX         
Valid G Prox II ID Found!

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#5 2015-12-06 12:10:42

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Re: PM3 reading G-Prox II showing Indala

sorry, I was unclear in my post.  Can you save the trace and share it.  I didn't mean the output from the commands.

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#6 2015-12-07 03:39:15

Lenox
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Re: PM3 reading G-Prox II showing Indala

http://www.filedropper.com/investigated

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#7 2015-12-07 22:18:12

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Re: PM3 reading G-Prox II showing Indala

that is some terrible signal.  what size is the tag? and what voltage is your antenna without a tag on it?

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#8 2015-12-07 22:20:34

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Re: PM3 reading G-Prox II showing Indala

it can be cleaned up if you ran a `data dirthreshold 10 -30`  (for this specific read only) before the `lf search`

btw, indalademod has some pending adjustments that will clean up false positives like this.  (but your read signal is sooo bad it cannot be demodulated without some cleaning.)

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#9 2015-12-08 06:39:51

Lenox
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Re: PM3 reading G-Prox II showing Indala

marshmellow wrote:

that is some terrible signal.  what size is the tag? and what voltage is your antenna without a tag on it?

proxmark3> hw tune
Measuring antenna characteristics, please wait......#db# DownloadFPGA(len: 42096)                 
.         
# LF antenna: 11.69 V @   125.00 kHz         
# LF antenna: 17.74 V @   134.00 kHz         
# LF optimal: 17.74 V @   133.33 kHz         
# HF antenna:  0.28 V @    13.56 MHz         
# Your HF antenna is unusable.         
Displaying LF tuning graph. Divisor 89 is 134khz, 95 is 125khz.

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#10 2015-12-08 07:26:25

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Re: PM3 reading G-Prox II showing Indala

well an 11.69 V antenna with what i assume to be a tiny tag (keyfob or sticker) would probably account for the poor read.   

a good lf antenna is between 20-40 V. 

but i've used one as low as 10 V with no problems on larger tags, but it caused problems on small tags.

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#11 2015-12-09 18:04:34

Lenox
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Re: PM3 reading G-Prox II showing Indala

marshmellow wrote:

well an 11.69 V antenna with what i assume to be a tiny tag (keyfob or sticker) would probably account for the poor read.   

a good lf antenna is between 20-40 V. 

but i've used one as low as 10 V with no problems on larger tags, but it caused problems on small tags.

I see. Thanks for the info.

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